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This week on Perl 6 (week ending 2002-08-11)
by Piers Cawley | Pages: 1, 2, 3

Regex speedup

Angel reposted his patch to the regex subsystem, this time with appropriate diff flags. Brent Dax needed more clarification, which Angel gave; Dan accepted that, given docs and tests, the patch could go in. Angel made another patch with docs and tests, although Mike Lambert then asked for more clarification, and pointed out some issues with the inline keyword not being standard across all C compilers. He also wondered if Brent's old 'Tutorial' docs could be updated and reinstated. Angel responded with more clarification, and a promise that the tutorial would go in when he'd rewritten it, and commented that 'The previous Rx version had excellent documentation, so it will take a bit of time to get there.' I don't think this patch has been applied yet.

http://groups.google.com/groups -- Start here.

Lexicals and globals assembly question

Brian Wheeler has been looking at store_lex, find_lex, store_global and find_global and pointed out that the store_* ops seemed to be the wrong way round, since the parrot rule is that the destination is always the first operand. The response to this can be summed up in one word: "Oops." Brian has patched it, and added tests. Leopold Toetsch fixed things up in Builtins.pm.

http://groups.google.com/groups

Questions about pdd03_calling_conventions.pod

Jonathan Sillito asked a few questions about calling conventions, and noticed that the callcc op appeared to be going the way of all flesh. Dan answered the questions and remarked that callcc was to be reinstated and shouldn't have disappeared in the first place. Sean O'Rourke wondered why, since it could be replaced with calls to invoke and other cleverness. Dan agreed. So callcc will stay dead. (The only reason it was on the perch in the first place was because it'd been nailed there.)

http://groups.google.com/groups -- Start here

Hash optimisations

Having had a patch to remove a function call from the hash algorithm accepted, Jason Greene offered a more comprehensive set of hash optimisations. Dan applied the patch. Nicholas Clark and Steve Fink had a few questions. Nicholas wondered why a constant had been changed, and Steve worried about memory use. Dan reckoned that worrying about memory to the tune of an unsigned int + alignment bytes at the expense of speed was the wrong trade-off to make. However, the other subthread had led to a different design which saved the space and only gave a small performance hit in the less common case. Dan agreed.

http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html

Various PMC issues

Stephen Rawls is still trying to write tuple.pmc. Which means he's been nosing around the sources of all the other PMCs, looking at how they do things, so, he had a bunch of questions, mostly to do with PerlNums and PerlInts. The answer to many of the questions appears to be 'the problem will go away when we get multimethod dispatch'. Dan is pouting because he had 'wanted to go with a left-side-wins scheme, but alas correctness has trumped speed...'. Dan has promised details of Parrot multimethods 'soonish'.

http://groups.google.com/groups

http://groups.google.com/groups

Never ending story Keys

Josef wondered where we are with multi keyed access. Tom Hughes, who has promised to have a go at fixing things wondered if he was waiting for hell to freeze over. At which point it started 'snowing in Texas' as Dan came through with the design. There was much rejoicing, and a snowball fight was threatened. Tom had some questions (no surprise there: when you're the one doing the implementation, there's almost never enough information). Clarification was provided, as were supplementary questions, and supplementary answers. As Blur put it so eloquently: "Woohoo!"

http://groups.google.com/groups

http://groups.google.com/groups

Hatchet job on assemble.pl / the fixup table

Brian Wheeler took an axe to the assembler and some associated files and asked for comments on his plans. Dan liked the sound of it, so Brian posted a patch. Leopold "How do you pronounce" Toetsch suggested making it a standalone library so stuff could just use Assembler instead of calling yet another external program. Sean O'Rourke asked for a summary of what had changed, and Brian gave him one. (Oo er).

http://groups.google.com/groups -- proposal

http://groups.google.com/groups -- patch

http://groups.google.com/groups -- summary

PMC assignment stuff

Dan has been a positive goldmine of designs and specs this week. This time he offered the design for a new PMC assignment opcode. We already have SET, which copies the pointers and CLONE making a 'full clone', but we also need ASSIGN to 'stuff a value from one PMC to another'. Peter Gibbs made a start on implementation and asked for some clarification, which was forthcoming, and then supplied a patch with his implementation, along with tests. Go Peter!

http://groups.google.com/groups

http://groups.google.com/groups

Status on matrix patch?

Josef is worried about what's happening to the matrix patch. Simon Cozens used this as an opportunity to crack the worst joke yet seen on any perl6 mailing list, but Josef appears not to have seen the film and didn't get the joke. Anyhoo, back on the main line of the thread, the problem seems to be that in order to have things sensibly arranged, it made sense for Josef to break the .pmc file up into a couple of .c and .h files, along with matrix.pmc, but there's currently no scheme for multi-file PMC classes. Dan also thinks that putting code into the parrot core just to facilitate code sharing between PMCs is probably not the right answer. This appears to have opened a can of worms. Dan is searching for a bigger can -- sorry -- designing the infrastructure that this needs.

http://groups.google.com/groups -- Thread starts here.

http://groups.google.com/groups -- Terrible joke...

Constant & opcode swap ops

Dan offered designs to support multiple segment bytecodes, or at least, to swap in constant tables. Steve Fink wondered if it might be a good idea to wrap the interpreter in a PMC and use vtable methods to do constant table manipulations etc. Dan thinks that's a great idea for introspection, but worries that it'll slow things down if we make the interpreter itself go through those hoops all the time. Nicholas Clark also offered a few caveats ('Are you sure you want to do it this way?', words to strike fear into the heart of any designer I think). Dan isn't sure.

Faster assembler

Nicholas Clark offered a patch which makes Assembler::_generate_bytecode faster. By around 1.5%. Dan applied it. Sean O'Rourke offered more tweaks. Mattia Barbon had a patch which meant that the tests could just 'use Parrot::Assembler' rather than call assemble.pl, but the tweaks have outdated it. Dan and Nicholas asked for the patch anyway because it would make remaking it easier.

http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html

Perl 6 regexes...

Dan threw down the gauntlet of implementing Perl 6's regexes from Apocalypse. Sean O'Rourke has apparently already taken it up. I think we'll be seeing more of this thread next week...

http://groups.google.com/groups

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